[packman] PMBS - quo vadis?

[Martin Pluskal]

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On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 11:49 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> 2017-02-24 10:29 GMT+01:00 Stefan Botter <jsj at jsj.dyndns.org>:
> 
> > Tomáš Chvátal <tomas.chvatal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  I completely agree that the conflicts should be discussed here.
> > > The
> > >  only
> > > person I had to revoke rights I emailed right away explaining the
> > > situation because he was blindly reverting all the changes we did
> > > without any word to us. He didn't bother to reply to my mail or
> > > ever
> > > before to any of the questions I asked on this mailinglist about
> > > k3b
> > > as well...
> > 
> > How long did you wait for a reply? The few packagers here are
> > usually
> > very busy with the primary day job and their personal life,
> > expecting
> > an answer right away seems a little bit rushed.
> > 
> > ATM it is 1 year without reply. And I verified it is in the
> > archives right
> 
> now.
> 
> > 
> > In any case - and let me re-iterate this - retracting rights in the
> > build system of another user, just because you can and the actions
> > of
> > the other user does not fit your idea, is intolerable and not the
> > way
> > we work together.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I did that just because he was actively reverting everything
> directly.
> Before we did any changes to those packages we created submissions
> that
> sent an email and I also checked there is nobody selected as a
> maintainer
> (that pesky checkbox in obs).
> After I removed his rights I actually wanted him to communicate so we
> can
> clarify and then I would actually enable him again. But he didn't
> reply not
> here, not irc...
> 
> HTH
> 
Hello

Just my two cents here - in several cases I noticed that some packages
were provided with unversioned tarballs, likely altered, with  no
explanation of their origin nor any kind of changelog update in
package 
* such things do not create much trust in packages provided by packman
* at least some of openSUSE packaging guidelines should be followed ...

My overall goal with packman, at least for Essential project would be
to have only things that are not suitable for openSUSE there,
everything else should be in main distributions (Tumbleweed and via
maintenace updates in Leap) - and achieving this is actually not so
difficult.

Cheers

Martin
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