[packman] VLC for OpenSUSE

[David Kronlid]

> > I contacted videolan a few VLC-versions ago when this problem first
> > happened, they told me to contact packman as they used your files.
> > Looks like I have to tell them again about this unsolved problem.
> > Where in which file is the information about dependencies stored so
> > that I can analyse the file and see what mistake they have made? The
> > repo is here: http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/13.1/
>
> Well, actually both videolan.org and Packman just link to the openSUSE vlc
> packages, as mentioned:
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia:libs/vlc

It would seem that I have been misinformed by someone at videolan about the
process of creating the vlc packages at videolan. I'll continue the
discussion with them.

I still need to know where in which file(s) the dependencies are set so
that I can see what someone has done wrong or what my computer
misinterprets.

> > I don't use zypper when this problem happens, I use the automatic
> > update through the simple app that comes with OpenSUSE KDE.
>
> Yes, but you should try with zypper to see if the problem occurs there as
> well.

When I wrote to the list I only wanted to discuss the underlying cause of
the problem with the vlc updates at videolan. I had already solved the
problem temporarily, so there was never any reason to run "zypper up" in
the first place.

Now I have switched to packman, but I'll contact videolan again and discuss
more with them.

Thanks all for answering quickly!
/David
 Den 5 okt 2014 02:00 skrev "Wolfgang Bauer" <e9325712 at student.tuwien.ac.at
>:

> Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2014, 00:28:41 schrieb David Kronlid:
> > I contacted videolan a few VLC-versions ago when this problem first
> > happened, they told me to contact packman as they used your files.
> > Looks like I have to tell them again about this unsolved problem.
> > Where in which file is the information about dependencies stored so
> > that I can analyse the file and see what mistake they have made? The
> > repo is here: http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/13.1/
>
> Well, actually both videolan.org and Packman just link to the openSUSE vlc
> packages, as mentioned:
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia:libs/vlc
>
> So you might file a bug report at http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/ .
>
> But there is no general problem anyway IMHO.
> Otherwise others (including me) would have this as well, no?
>
> > I don't use zypper when this problem happens, I use the automatic
> > update through the simple app that comes with OpenSUSE KDE.
>
> Yes, but you should try with zypper to see if the problem occurs there as
> well.
>
> > What's the point of simplifying things with a
> > graphical interface if people are still going to use command line? ;-)
>
> Just that: to make life simpler for people who want it simpler.
> Also some things just are not possible at the command line.
>
> But that doesn't mean that you may not use the command line any more.
> E.g. to get better error messages that might point to the actual problem.
>
> > > What is your repo list?
> > > zypper lr -d
> >
> > I don't want to print my repo list on a mailing list, sorry.
>
> Why? Is this a secret?
>
> Then we probably cannot help you further, sorry.
> Especially if you don't want to run "zypper up" either...
>
> > However I don't understand why I normally shouldn't use the videolan
> > repos as they only seem to take what's at packman and spread it to the
> > world through their servers.
>
> No they don't. See above.
> They take the packages from openSUSE and rebuild them with full codec
> support,
> the same as Packman does.
> And they have other necessary packages (ffmpeg e.g.) in their repo as well,
> even in different versions than Packman, so they obviously do _not_ take
> them
> from Packman.
>
> And I didn't say you shouldn't use the videolan repos. But you should not
> use
> it together with Packman as they contain some of the same stuff in
> different
> versions.
>
> > It would also be much
> > easier for them if they just told people to add the packman repo and
> > install VLC from there as it would give them less work, but that's
> > their problem if they want to run their own repos for different
> > distros, they might have some good reason to do it.
>
> Well, of course they have some good reason to do it.
> They are the developers of VLC, and they probably want to enable their
> users
> on any OS or distribution to install it easily from a central place (their
> homepage).
> And of course they have no control over Packman or any other third-party
> repo.
> ;)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wolfgang
>
>