[packman] kaffeine for KDE 4

[todd rme]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Manfred Tremmel <manfred at links2linux.de> wrote:
> Am Montag, 28. Februar 2011 schrieb todd rme:
>> KDE 4 has been out for a while now.  Perhaps now would be a good time
>> to reverse the kaffeine program names, that is change kde4-kaffeine
>>  to kaffeine and change kaffeine to kde3-kaffeine.
>
> The package itselve is build as kde3-kaffeine (kde3) and kaffeine (kde4)
> when you use openSUSE >= 11.2 (when kde4 in openSUSE gets useable). It
> doesn't matter what name the Project on the OBS or the Website.

But since things are being reworked, perhaps it is a good time to make
the OBS naming the same as the package naming.

There is only openSUSE >= 11.2 now anyways, since openSUSE 11.1
support has been discontinued by both openSUSE and packman.

>>  Or perhaps just get rid of the KDE 3 version entirely.
>
> When the KDE4 version has nearly the same features, the window can be
> reduced to a acceptable size (it's much to wide in the minmum size) and
> the users do not ask for the kde3 version.

The KDE 3 version is being packaged by KDE:KDE3, so it is still
available.  People who want KDE3 applications can get them from there.
 It doesn't look like the KDE 3 version is being updated anymore.

>> Is there a reason kaffeine even needs to be in there, since it is
>> already available directly from openSUSE?
>
> openSUSE 11.1 had no kde4 kaffeine
> openSUSE 11.2 was shipped with 1.0pre2, I wouldn't call this version
> useable
> openSUSE 11.3 included 1.0pre3, isn't this reason enought for a update?
>
> so 11.4 is the only openSUSE we can discous about the need of a packman
> package.

As I mentioned, 11.1 support is discontinued by packman so it isn't
relevant.  For the rest, the most recent version of kaffeine is
available from KDE:UpdatedApps.  This is the standard location for
updated versions of 3rd-party KDE applications like kaffeine and
amarok.  Anyone who wants updated versions of KDE applications,
including kaffeine, can get them from there.  Anyone who doesn't want
updated versions probably wouldn't appreciate packman updating the
application for them.

>> Does the packman version
>> have some advantages over the normal version?  It seems like the
>> openSUSE version has a number of patches not found in the packman
>> version.
>
> It's the "normal" version.

Then I think it would be better to use the upsteam KDE OBS projects,
such KDE:UpdatedApps, for this rather than packman.

-Todd