[packman] yt-dlp 2022.08.08 broken on 15.3

[Masaru Nomiya]

Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject    : Re: [packman] yt-dlp 2022.08.08 broken on 15.3
  Message-ID : <2b730457880b50972dfd63f0189dfdb2edc72e76.camel at jsj.dyndns.org>
  Date & Time: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 12:12:49 +0200

[SB] == Stefan Botter <jsj at jsj.dyndns.org> has written:

SB>  On Fri, 2022-08-12 at 18:30 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
SB>  :

MN> > In the Changelog of yt-dlp, it is written as follows;
MN> > 
MN> >      ### 2022.08.08
MN> > 
MN> >      * **Remove Python 3.6 support**
MN> > 
MN> > So, I tried to build yt-dlp with python 3.8, the I could get yt-dlp rpm.
MN> > That is, the build requirement is python 3.8 or higher.

SB>  Luigi made the successful submit request sr#994385 in OBS for the change
SB>  to use python 3.9 for all versions older than Tumbleweed, in fact all
SB>  distributions since 15.0 (he mentioned that earlier).

Ah, I see.

SB>  We at PMBS build several packages linked to OBS sources, where there are
SB>  some changes needed with respect to limitations, which OBS cannot
SB>  provide, eg. legal causes or the like, we build the source with the
SB>  respective modifications.

I have heard of OBS and PMBS, but have never looked into them.
I will look into it.

MN> > I can't understand why packman requires python 3.9 or higher.
MN> > Moreover, 
MN> > 
MN> >   1. I think python 3.9 is the development version
MN> > 
MN> > and,
MN> > 
MN> >   2. The following repo has the stable version of python 3.10
MN> > 
MN> >
MN> >  https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/python/15.3/
MN> > 
MN> >    ↑__  I have not checked if all modules are available here.

SB>  Python 3.9 is available via the official update channel to at least 15.3
SB>  and 15.4 as packages python39*.

Is it.

SB>  yt-dlp requires now at least python 3.8,
SB>  so version 3.9 is the closest fit we can manage. Python 3.10 ist not
SB>  (perhaps yet) available for Leap.

SB>  We build packages in a way, that there are no outside dependencies for
SB>  packages installed from packman. The term "outside" includes everything,
SB>  which is not provided by PMBS itself, or the distribution repository and
SB>  their respective update repositories. There is no possibility to build
SB>  packages, which are not in these repositories.
SB>  Your choice of python 3.10 resides in a different repository, which is
SB>  not configured in a vanilla openSUSE Leap 15.x installation with added
SB>  Packman repo. We have to stick with 3.9.

I see.

MN> > I don't know the merit of upgrading to python 3.10 for the sake of
MN> > yt-dlp, but in general, I think there is merit in doing so as more
MN> > and more applications are being developed in python.

SB>  As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, you can have multiple
SB>  versions of python installed, an this is handled using the alternative
SB>  mechanism, so apart from a little additional disk space no harm is done,
SB>  and you can use yt-dlp.

Yes, I know it.
I'm installing 3.8, 3.9, and 3.10 of python in my Tumbleweed.
3.8 and 3.9 are installed just to get python310-conan.

And, we can use yt-dlp without resorting to update-alternatives.

Thanks & Regards.

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