[packman] PMBS - quo vadis?

Manfred Hollstein manfred.h at gmx.net
Fri Feb 24 11:45:42 CET 2017


On Fri, 24 Feb 2017, 11:36:11 +0100, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Am Fri, 24 Feb 2017 11:09:42 +0100
> schrieb Manfred Hollstein <manfred.h at gmx.net>:
> > Indeed! Another example why the current approach to rely on some
> > packages being provided by Factory first is kodi-17.
> This is more an issue with the workflow.
> Using 'osc bco Multimedia kodi' would have shown the issue right away.
> There is no need to rush anything in. If a required library comes from
> OBS or PMBS does not matter much. It has to be decided on a
> case-by-case base how to satisfy the requirements. In case of libcec we
> should just have waited until it appears in TW. In case of the recent
> ABI change in libbluray it was clear that certain changes can not be
> done globally.

agreed, this has nothing to do with the "way forward" discussion.

> > And when packages get removed, again, this needs some way of
> > communication, potentially with reasons included and hints what should
> > be used instead - this can be currently seen on openSUSE_Leap_42.1
> > where several gstreamer related packages (0_10 version) either would
> > need to get downgraded to those versions from OBS, or they don't even
> > exist anymore (like libaudio2 or libslv2), but are still required by
> > other packages (like MPlayer2).
> I think MPlayer2 was dropped. Installed but orphaned packages are hard
> to handle.

Nope, I just looked at one of the mirrors, and it's still there for

ncftp ...42.1/Essentials/x86_64 > dir -rw-rw-r--    1 1003     1003      2896873 Feb 23 21:28 MPlayer-1.2.r37916-4.2.x86_64.rpm

What would be a proper replacement for full mplayer/mencoder

> [...]
> Also it would be helpful if the email setup would work properly. Only a
> subset of the submit_request emails are sent.
> And perhaps each mail should be mirrored to this list to reach a wider
> audience. But that may create too much noise for the "ordinary" lurker.

I wouldn't mind receiving such stuff, and everybody else could just
filter them away.

> Olaf


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